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Hi all,
I'm very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which I'll predefine?
I'm aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward the packet. But not sure if I can define a "header like" extension to match my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
Serdar
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The notion of header in P4 is not the same as a protocol header in internet standards.
"Headers" in P4 means "bytes at the beginning of the packet".
So if the thing you are looking for has fixed length and is at the beginning of the packet you can look for it.
In P4 you cannot write a loop to look for a pattern anywhere in a packet, or to look for a pattern whose size is not a constant.
Mihai
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Subject: [P4-discuss] Payload Bit Patter Matching
Hi all,
I'm very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which I'll predefine?
I'm aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward the packet. But not sure if I can define a "header like" extension to match my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
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Thanks Mihai. By means "at the beginning of the packet" it depends on how I match it right? My bits of interest is fix and begins with 64. Byte at the payload and has a fix length, so I think I can match it, am I correct? Packet type is also fixed, so I know exactly where my bits are located.
Serdar Kut
Kimden: Mihai Budiu
G?nderildi: 20 Aral?k Per?embe 19:24
Konu: RE: Payload Bit Patter Matching
Kime: Serdar Kut, p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
The notion of header in P4 is not the same as a protocol header in internet standards.
"Headers" in P4 means "bytes at the beginning of the packet".
So if the thing you are looking for has fixed length and is at the beginning of the packet you can look for it.
In P4 you cannot write a loop to look for a pattern anywhere in a packet, or to look for a pattern whose size is not a constant.
Mihai
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To: p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
Subject: [P4-discuss] Payload Bit Patter Matching
Hi all,
I'm very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which I'll predefine?
I'm aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward the packet. But not sure if I can define a "header like" extension to match my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
Serdar
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If you can define one or more sequences of fixed-length headers that you
can write a P4 parser for (or some of them can even have variable-length
portions, like IPv4 options), and the part you want to match on appears at
a fixed offset from the beginning of one of those headers, that is what P4
is very good at.
If the part you want to match on is at a variable-length offset from the
beginning of one of those headers, and it is in one of only 2 or 3 or a
small fixed number of places, you can write multiple conditions and OR them
together.
If it can be at one of N possible places, where N can be as large as the
payload, then while technically N is still finite and you can write a big
OR of many fixed-offset conditions, you are getting further and further
away from the strengths of P4.
Andy
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:13 AM Serdar Kut via P4-discuss <
p4-discuss@lists.p4.org> wrote:
Thanks Mihai. By means "at the beginning of the packet" it depends on how
I match it right? My bits of interest is fix and begins with 64. Byte at
the payload and has a fix length, so I think I can match it, am I correct?
Packet type is also fixed, so I know exactly where my bits are located.
Serdar Kut
Kimden: Mihai Budiu
Gönderildi: 20 Aralık Perşembe 19:24
Konu: RE: Payload Bit Patter Matching
Kime: Serdar Kut, p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
The notion of header in P4 is not the same as a protocol header in
internet standards.
“Headers” in P4 means “bytes at the beginning of the packet”.
So if the thing you are looking for has fixed length and is at the
beginning of the packet you can look for it.
In P4 you cannot write a loop to look for a pattern anywhere in a packet,
or to look for a pattern whose size is not a constant.
Mihai
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Kut via P4-discuss
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:35 AM
To: p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
Subject: [P4-discuss] Payload Bit Patter Matching
Hi all,
I’m very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit
pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which
I’ll predefine?
I’m aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward
the packet. But not sure if I can define a “header like” extension to match
my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
Serdar
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veya herhangi bir kismini kopyalamayiniz. Yanlislikla bu mesaj size
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veya herhangi bir kismini kopyalamayiniz. Yanlislikla bu mesaj size
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The way you read bits out of a packet is by using parsers. Think of a packet as being a byte stream. When you call extract(header) you actually take a number of bits from the packet enough to populate the header and advance the cursor of the byte stream. Headers can have a variable number of bits, (in P4-16 this is done with varbit fields) - an example is IP options.
If you can write a set of headers and express your computation as a sequence of extracts from the beginning of the packet using these headers then you will be able to get the information you want. In the end your program will have to execute some sequence like:
extract(ethernet);
extract(ip);
extract(udp);
extract(myCustomHeader);
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:13 AM
To: p4-discuss@lists.p4.org; Mihai Budiu mbudiu@vmware.com
Subject: Re: Payload Bit Patter Matching
Thanks Mihai. By means "at the beginning of the packet" it depends on how I match it right? My bits of interest is fix and begins with 64. Byte at the payload and has a fix length, so I think I can match it, am I correct? Packet type is also fixed, so I know exactly where my bits are located.
Serdar Kut
Kimden: Mihai Budiu
Gönderildi: 20 Aralık Perşembe 19:24
Konu: RE: Payload Bit Patter Matching
Kime: Serdar Kut, p4-discuss@lists.p4.orgmailto:p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
The notion of header in P4 is not the same as a protocol header in internet standards.
"Headers" in P4 means "bytes at the beginning of the packet".
So if the thing you are looking for has fixed length and is at the beginning of the packet you can look for it.
In P4 you cannot write a loop to look for a pattern anywhere in a packet, or to look for a pattern whose size is not a constant.
Mihai
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:35 AM
To: p4-discuss@lists.p4.orgmailto:p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
Subject: [P4-discuss] Payload Bit Patter Matching
Hi all,
I'm very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which I'll predefine?
I'm aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward the packet. But not sure if I can define a "header like" extension to match my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
Serdar
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Thanks Andy. Cristal clear now.
Serdar Kut
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:18 PM +0300, "Andy Fingerhut" <andy.fingerhut@gmail.commailto:andy.fingerhut@gmail.com> wrote:
If you can define one or more sequences of fixed-length headers that you can write a P4 parser for (or some of them can even have variable-length portions, like IPv4 options), and the part you want to match on appears at a fixed offset from the beginning of one of those headers, that is what P4 is very good at.
If the part you want to match on is at a variable-length offset from the beginning of one of those headers, and it is in one of only 2 or 3 or a small fixed number of places, you can write multiple conditions and OR them together.
If it can be at one of N possible places, where N can be as large as the payload, then while technically N is still finite and you can write a big OR of many fixed-offset conditions, you are getting further and further away from the strengths of P4.
Andy
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:13 AM Serdar Kut via P4-discuss <p4-discuss@lists.p4.orgmailto:p4-discuss@lists.p4.org> wrote:
Thanks Mihai. By means "at the beginning of the packet" it depends on how I match it right? My bits of interest is fix and begins with 64. Byte at the payload and has a fix length, so I think I can match it, am I correct? Packet type is also fixed, so I know exactly where my bits are located.
Serdar Kut
Kimden: Mihai Budiu
G?nderildi: 20 Aral?k Per?embe 19:24
Konu: RE: Payload Bit Patter Matching
Kime: Serdar Kut, p4-discuss@lists.p4.orgmailto:p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
The notion of header in P4 is not the same as a protocol header in internet standards.
"Headers" in P4 means "bytes at the beginning of the packet".
So if the thing you are looking for has fixed length and is at the beginning of the packet you can look for it.
In P4 you cannot write a loop to look for a pattern anywhere in a packet, or to look for a pattern whose size is not a constant.
Mihai
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:35 AM
To: p4-discuss@lists.p4.orgmailto:p4-discuss@lists.p4.org
Subject: [P4-discuss] Payload Bit Patter Matching
Hi all,
I'm very new to P4 and trying to figure out if I can match a specific bit pattern with the UDP Payload and take action according to a table which I'll predefine?
I'm aware any type of headers can be defined and used to match and forward the packet. But not sure if I can define a "header like" extension to match my bits of interest in the payload.
Thanks
Serdar
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